Shiny: The merits of euthanising your Cryx force? Let’s see. There are, as I assume you have already noted, the matter of freeing up space and a possible conversion into money for your use.
Then there are other considerations, for which I will need additional context. I know you are occasionally given to frustration with Warmachine. Is it that you are quitting the game, or are you abandoning the Cryx for something you find easier to use?
Von: Abandoning them and taking up the Skorne again.
While I detested painting the Skorne after a while, I enjoyed playing with them, and was at first successful (later unsuccesses were attributable to deficiencies in my collection), and I do actually think, at this stage, that Hordes may well outperform Warmachine in the ‘pure game’ stakes just by layering of effects within the system. And I could recover the painting of Skorne with a change in methodology, away from the rather frustrating way I’d been going at them before.
Also, taking up Mercenaries again, specifically Epic Magnus, who is compatible with the Skorne, and for whom I did once own a rather nicely painted force.You played against my Mercenaries, I believe, and may be able to offer some perspective on that.
Shiny: They were very good, as I recall. And less frustrating to play against than the Cryx.
Von: See, this is another factor. Nobody likes the Cryx. And I’m sort of sick of not being allowed to have a bad day because I play Cryx.
Shiny: In Warhammer, I’d call that the Dwarf’s Tirade.
Von: That’s a whine, though, and I don’t want to indulge in that sort of thing.
Shiny: From my own perspective, I can see great benefit of making a fresh start when you get Army Fatigue. After over a decade of playing Skaven, I switched to Bretonnians. They give an excellent military counterpoint to the Skaven, and I’ve racked up more victories (and more reliably reproducible victories)
Von: But you still have your Skaven. I was going to ask about the Eldar-to-Tau transition, which was more terminal for the original army. How are you finding that?
Shiny: That is also a good comparison. I recently dabbled with the idea of a return to Eldar, then rejected it. I even built an army list for an Eldar army, without the previous baggage of modelling it around what I owned. It looked like a good force, but after analysis it still didn’t entice. My Tau, for all that they are archaic, overpointed and underpowered, still provide a more satisfactory army.
Ultimately, I don’t MISS the Eldar. I just miss BS4. Your mileage may vary (Exhibit A: your Vampire Counts army), but that’s a question for you to answer. As are these three. Do you enjoy playing with them? Are you any good with them? How much will you miss them if they disappear?
So to the First: Do you enjoy playing with Cryx? I know they are frustrating when used improperly.
Von: I don’t really enjoy playing with them. They nip about, they don’t quite manage to do what I set them up to do, and they tend to lose very early on in a game. If I win, it’s usually because I’ve pulled off some stock trick (and been allowed to skip over a few errors of judgement; I tend to throw games away with my Cryx by activating things in the wrong order, or forgetting to do things I’ve set myself up for…). This has been the case for some time, really.
Shiny: You and the Cryx strike me as akin to me and the Skaven. You love them to little bits, but ultimately you are not the general to play them. Which leads into the second: Are you any good with them?
Von: I… don’t actually know any more. I think I’ve never been THAT good with them? I’ve occasionally surprised people with them, thanks to a tendency to pick up and run with things that aren’t conventionally recognised as ‘good’. But surprising isn’t the same as reliably effective.
Shiny: Indeed. Pulling insane pranks with Skaven is easy, but not always useful, or even wanted. The same principle applies. And so to the crucial Third: Will you miss them if they disappear?
Von: I have a strong sentimental attachment to some of them, in that sort of ‘first thing I ever bought for this system’ sense. And there are some – well, some of my best ever paintjobs in there.
Shiny: So keep a model or two that you’re proud of, and remove the rest.
One thing, that occurs to me but may not factor in for you, is replaceability. I’m reluctant to be away with my Skaven due to all the conversion jobs and archaic models. Warmachine being the game it is, most of the models are shop-standard. If you felt the need to do a new Cryx army, you only lose the paint job.
Von: Well, not strictly true, but I sold all my converted ones with nary a whimper. Except for a unit of Revenant Crew of whom I must confess a certain fondness.
Shiny: So keep them. I’m sure you can stand to have some Undead Pirates around the house…
Von: Indeed. I’m likely to keep the battle box, the Skarlock, and my Revenant Crew, if I keep anything. But honestly, I wonder how much of that sentiment is actually… well, all that strong. Because to be honest, I don’t have my first miniatures for anything ELSE any more, and I don’t find myself pining away for them. Even the Vampires weren’t my first Warhammer army. And here’s the thing. The Cryx would, I think, rather than being sold, be traded with Mr. Bandwagon. So if I missed them that much there exists room to negotiate.
Shiny: And so I conclude that it may be time to let your Cryx go on an adventure elsewhere. Retain a keepsake and let the rest go.
Von: Additional bonus; I will be less vexed by the existence of Assault Kommandos, Precursor Knights, and other infuriatingly Cryx-proof pieces.
Shiny: Exactly! So, yes. While you reserve the right to feel bad about it, (and have the right to say “I don’t care, I’ll keep them anyway!”), the time has come.
But that’s just what we think. What do you think? Could I be bored with Cryx and thus phoning in my Warmachine antics because of that? Would returning to the Beasts from the East actually do me any good? What would you do if you were me?