[30K] Theory Thursday – VIII Legion on a Budget

Apparently the urge was not excised by my previous detour into these uncharted waters, so here we go again. This time, a list from the VIII Legion, to be constructed with only one Betrayal at Calth box, although I’m allowing myself the odd accessory kit and one extra thing, be it vehicle or squad, for each build.

Limitations

Two HQs – one in Cataphractii Terminator armour, one in power armour. 30 Tactical Marines in some combination or another, 5 Terminators, and a Contemptor Dreadnought. The characters will be acting as a kind of untainted echo of my other Night Lords army – and it’s worth noting that one of these builds is a Night Raptor squad away from being a perfectly cromulent Chaos Warband Formation for 40K, representing some time-locked Legion brothers who’ve finally been unleashed…

Legion Special Rules

These bear review, mostly because of A Talent for Murder, which suggests that the Night Lords like to deploy in big squads or gang up on their opponents. +1 to Wound is not to be sneezed at when taking a swing at one’s brother Marines. The Terminators have access to Deep Strike for a small extra fee, all the characters can take chainglaives (and, full disclosure, probably will: I like chainglaives). There’s some other stuff, but this is what stands out.

There’s also the Rite of War – the Terror Assault. This is a weird one: only one Consul or Heavy Support option, three Terror squads, the capacity to impose Night Fighting for up to three turns, and no allies or fortifications. I might start with one of those.

Build One: Terror Assault

HQ – Legion Praetor – 172
Cataphractii Terminator armour, chainfist, combi-melta, Teleportation Transponder, Trophies of Judgement

HQ – Legion Centurion – 120
Moritat; Nostraman chainglaive; artificer armour; refractor field; Trophies of Judgement

Elites – Legion Terminator Squad – 249
Cataphractii armour, Teleportation Transponder; 1 heavy flamer, 2 combi-meltas, 1 chainfist, 3 lightning claws; Sergeant has Nostraman chainglaive

Elites – Contemptor Dreadnought – 195
Multi-melta, heavy flamer, extra armour
Dedicated Transport – Legion Drop Pod – 35

Troops – Terror Squad – 243
5 additional Executioners; 9 boltguns; 1 flamer; Headsman has Nostraman chainglaive, melta bomb and artificer armour

Troops – Terror Squad – 243
5 additional Executioners; 9 boltguns; 1 flamer; Headsman has Nostraman chainglaive, melta bomb and artificer armour

Troops – Terror Squad – 243
5 additional Executioners; 9 boltguns; 1 flamer; Headsman has Nostraman chainglaive, melta bomb and artificer armour

1500 points

The idea here is that absolutely everything has Scout, Infiltrate or Deep Strike. That’s why I took the Moritat: I honestly couldn’t think of anything else to do with a lone footslogging HQ that wouldn’t hold one of the Terror Squads back, and the idea of a doomed lone killer who’s predestined to betray his commander (no please, let me tell you about my fanfiction!) is kind of appropriate for the VIII anyway.

Build Two: Pride of the Legion

HQ – Legion Praetor – 172
Cataphractii Terminator armour, chainfist, combi-melta, Teleportation Transponder, Trophies of Judgement

HQ – Legion Centurion – 95
Chaplain; Nostraman chainglaive; refractor field

Elites – Legion Terminator Squad – 248
Cataphractii armour, Teleportation Transponder, 1 Nostraman chainglaive, 4 lightning claws/power fists, 1 heavy flamer, 4 combi-meltas

Elites – Contemptor Dreadnought – 200
Kheres pattern assault cannon, extra armour

Troops – Legion Tactical Veteran Squad – 260
5 additional Marines; Nuncio-vox; 2 meltaguns; 2 Nostraman chainglaives; Weapon Masters
(Chaplain goes here)

Troops – Legion Tactical Veteran Squad – 250
5 additional Marines; Nuncio-vox; 2 heavy bolters; Resolve

Troops – Legion Tactical Veteran Squad – 250
5 additional Marines; Nuncio-vox; 2 heavy bolters; Resolve

Troops – Legion Tactical Support Squad – 170
Plasma guns; Sergeant with combi-plasma gun

Heavy Support – Legion Heavy Support Squad – 205
Missile launchers; flakk missiles; Sergeant with Nuncio-vox and chainsword

1850 points

My extra piece here is a fourth set of Mark IV Space Marines, because good grief do they make the weapon loadouts easier to think about. With four of everything the only real decision to make is whether to take two guns in a Tactical Veteran Squad or four in a Support Squad of some kind. I opted for three as-reliable-as-Night-Lords-get squads – one to get up close and personal, delivering several chainglaives and meltaguns to a position or relevance, and two to hold the line, laying down the traditional firepower. The smaller Support squads are there to deal with Terminators and flyers/middleweight vehicles respectively, and the Terminators are loaded for bear: teleport in, blast stuff with combi-meltas, and then wade into the fray on subsequent turns.

(This one rejigs nicely into a 40K Formation too: Chaos Lord, Chaos Sorcerer, Terminators, two small Chaos Space Marine squads with meltaguns, a Havoc squad with four missile launchers, a Havoc squad with four heavy bolters, a Chosen or Havoc squad with four-and-a-half plasma guns and ten bolter billies to scatter throughout. Even a Helbrute, with a bit of liberal Counts-As… all it needs is a squad of Night Raptors and it’s basically a Chaos Warband, ready to go.)

The bottom line

The VIII Legion doesn’t offer many Rites of War that are attractive to plain Jane infantry units, even if some of them are Terminators. I can see why people recommend that Horus Heresy newbies start out with two Betrayal at Calth sets, too; six of each special and heavy weapon create some fun opportunities and there are enough combi-weapons to build two specialised Terminator squads or go all-in with a big ‘un. All you really need on top of that is a third Contemptor (one of the fancy resin ones, no doubt) and you’re essentially ready to go.

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  1. I think this is a great idea, designing armies that with a tiny bit of substitution can serve in both the 41st millennium and the Heresy era. It’s what I’ve done with my Astra Militarum/Imperial Militia. And of course with Chaos Space Marines you can go a step further and have it actually be the exact same dudes, across time. In things like Highlander and vampire stories, the bits I liked the best were always the flashbacks that showed them in the distant past.

    I’m looking forward to reading about your gaming experiences with them, in 40k and 30k.

    1. That impulse is at the root of my current fascination with Chaos. I want to have a good long look at the same handful of scum and wizards, separated across the ravages of time and/or frozen within it. I wasn’t aware the Shattered Legions were a thing until after I’d written these posts; now I’m *very* intrigued by those.

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